Published: 4 Feb 13 11:26 CET | Print version
Updated: 4 Feb 13 15:14 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/money/20130204-47743.html
Germany will need large numbers of highly skilled immigrants in the coming years to compensate for its rapidly ageing population, according to a new report released by the OECD on Monday.
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Also, press showed that immigration is booming. However the figures in this article show this is bullshit, as usual btw when in Germany u talk about booming.
Am not surprise why people do not go to Germany, as living and working standards are low for immigrants.
All the best
To close the subject: What yllusion said.
Each year, around 25,000 people come to Germany from the EU and the European Free Trade Association (EFTA) for jobs. They make up only 0.02 percent of the German population, whereas in Australia, Denmark, Canada and England this figure is between five and ten times higher.
These two paragraphs in the above article support smart2012's reasoning. @yllusion. You are in academia so hold your argument until you come out into the real workplace world. It is not the theoretical bed of roses you think it is.
Last year, in Japan, they sold more diapiers for adults than babies. Germany cannot be far behind.
The primary skill Germam immigrants will need is "bed care" in the very near future.
and I myself am in academia (13:49 February 4, 2013 by yllusion)
I am not saying that everything is perfect, but everything isn't bad either."
Thats a great old standby, for playing middle ground.
There are good jobs here for qualified persons, if you get IN the system, contract, life time , ect, Then I agree with Yllusion....I am not saying that everything is perfect, but everything isn't bad either.
Second, here they are talking not about engineeer, here they are referring to technical specialized workers, ie guys working on the line of a plant, or builders, or nurses, ie jobs a German would not do as badly paid...
Do not confuse things. Germany has more engineers they need, an even more in the future, as big enterprises are moving RD and productions in Asia. Ps this is the reason why I am moving there
@smart2012 1) Sorry, how can you say that Germany has more enginners than they need? It is absorbing a lot of foreign engineers! 2) Good luck with your future job.
Second, good German engineers prefer to work either in Asia or in Switzerland, as taxation in Germany is too high (40%, in Switzerland 15%, in Singapore 18%).
Am not sure how long u have been living in Germany, but soon you will see 50-55 years old great guys being fired by your company during a reorganization. And you will see them getting depressed. This is the nig issue in Germany. Temp agency and low salaries for youngs has killed the competitiveness of 50-55 years old guys, who are now struggling.
I´ve read your negative comments for awhile and I want to say, good luck with your new job in Singapore. I am in Germany right now and I can say it is not a bad country at all. Though salary is not as high as some European country, the cost of living is relatively reasonable (yes, a 2 room flat does not cost more than 1K as you mention in other article - please don´t confuse other non-german readers here because it simple is not true! Back to your `Singapore Dream`- well, I´m from there and I can safely say, a lot of policies are changing and its not for the better for expatriate. If you don´t believe me, talk to some locals (variety of them) on their political situation and what changes are coming). Some of my European friends had changed their expat package to permanent position with much lower salary due to the crisis and and trust me .. cost of living in Singapore ain´t cheap at all. Live there and you will understand.
The regional stubborness of trying to be extra-special will only make you less competitive.
@PaulWilleaux: great idea. This would clear matters of the stubborn regional baggage, which is only that, baggage. I would be fine if we all speak English or Mandarin...world languages.
@smart2012: good luck with Singapore. Many colleagues working there love it as it has more of the Western flavor, people actually utilize deodorant and don't spit on the floor.
And while Germany does have some upsides like healthcare, maternity leave, relatively safe overall environment, etc., the culture can be extremely uptight and unfriendly and it's not known for encouraging creativity or out-of-the-box thinking. It's just not on a lot of high-skilled peoples' Places to Live list.
I'm willing to bet that most of the people who complain about living / working in Germany have substandard German language skills or have not made a thorough effort to integrate.
I speak German, have 3 university degrees from outside Germany and all were accepted. I feel completely accepted and happy here and have a great job with a great company.
BTW, Germans are just as friendly or hard on themselves as they are "others". Yes, I agree with PVWG...poor journalism.
"germany has to recognise degrees earned outside EU. in my case, my wife is a medical doctor. and there is only difference of 1 of studies but she was told to study 6 years and then apply for internship and after that she will get a licence to practice as a doctor., we support integration and language, but even my wife learn german at highest level she wont get licence to practice. "
This is very interesting. If you are in Germany, you go to a doctor, and the doctor happens to be a foreigner, how confident would you be?
Also , if you need to have a surgery and the doctor is from ...... ( insert country name) , does it make you feel better or worse , compared to if he is from .... (insert another country's name ) .
http://www.thelocal.se/46022/20130205/#.URKuRx3v784
-I as a whole am not regarded in the same light as someone who had studied here (I studied in Scandinavia), apparently not having studied here implied I didn't know the local standards.
-The professional board is not prepared in any way to receive newcomers wishing to integrate to the profession. Null. Zero.
-Except in the biggest offices, no business at all is conducted in English. Yes I know we're in Germany. Still we're in the Western World 21st century and I doubt people moving to Singapore or Scandinavia work there in the local language. In MY field, if you don't speak very good to excellent German, you have low chances of entering the working world.
In my opinion this has nothing to do with being a foreigner, but some mentalities need to relax for this country to come to terms with its childless reality.
and Ishq
I was graduated in Medicine in western Europe out side Germany and after over coming the state exame I was accepted to speciality in a German University,
Naturaly I had to study the German language and to pass a German language examination before the employment.
I had 5 years of interesting work+study in the Uni and must say that I was treated well, I worked together with the German doctors and brought my speciality to end and then returned back home,
I guess the difficulties are made for those who wish to immigrate and stay in Germany,as in all European countries you are not allowed to get a permanent work permis in medicine as long as you do not have the citenzenship of the country ,in Germany you may work in the University for speciality purpose only with a temporany proffessional permision,