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Updated: 12 Oct 12 10:03 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/money/20121012-45509.html
Germany's finance minister said Friday there is "no alternative" to cutting debt in European countries, the day after the IMF chief called for Greece to be given more time to pare its deficit.
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Who are the fools, really? Those that keep asking, or those that keep giving?
The good story of this is that by doing this silly strategy they are killing Germany too... see recession, as the export is dying and internal demand is always low in Germany. And with Germany having the biggest debt in Europe, going in recession is dangerous...Well done Verkel!
You might be smart, but you definitely ignore the facts. Beside what MrNosey contributed, you should know that Germany's export is far from dying. For starters, try reading the articles on TheLocal, such as "Exports post surprise plus in August" (8 Oct 2012) http://www.thelocal.de/money/20121008-45423.html
Wait, you commented on that article, so supposedly you read it. You claimed there that Angela Merkel is not charismatic, just a few days after the polls showed the highest approval for her. Hmm, maybe I should reconsider the assumption about your smartness.
This is a very useful attribute that results in many fewer half-built bridges and things than in most countries - as well as BMWs and Mercs. However, if circumstances change, as they frequently do in long term planning, it can get in the way. In the UK, US and maybe Greece mindsets are much more flexible at changing approaches mid-activity - with the associated advantages and disadvantages.
I honestly do not know whether conditions have changed enough for a re-drawing of the plan but I do understand both Germany's "just stick with it" attitude and Greece's "we just need to alter it a little bit" frustration.
http://nationaldebtclocks.com/germany.htm
Chris Rea, overall data shows that Germany is going into recession. PMI is down, August export increased however annually is down. But feel free to be happy keep thinking that Germany is booming... LOL
Re Merkel poll, 2 months ago Merkel was falling down, now suddenly she is going up again (maybe cause we are getting closer to election???). And when I look at recent elections, CDU has lost everywhere.
Be happy, keep supporting Verkel, then in two years we will be here still talking about recession.. I just thank the French who got rid of Sarkozy..
Yes, indeed. Let's look at the latest figures for Germany's exports:
May 2012: +0.5% over May 2011
June 2012: +7.4% over June 2011
July 2012: +9.2% over July 2011
August 2012: +5.8% over August 2011
January-August 2012: +5.5% over January-August 2011
Just like you said. "Export is dying."
PMI changes are pretty much within the normal range. And the trend is actually upwards "The final seasonally adjusted Markit Germany Composite Output Index which measures the combined output of the manufacturing and service
sectors rose from 47.0 in August to 49.2 in September." Source: Markit Economics
Tax revenues: +8.6% over previous year (August 20, 2012)
Public debt decrease in 2012: 1.9% of GDP compared to 2011
Yep, that is exactly how recession looks like.
So you say Merkel is getting more and more popular because the elections are coming? So all other German politicians should get also more popular? Interesting idea.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/07/business/global/oecd-warns-of-recession-in-germany.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19462611
Not sure where u live nor what u read :)
What I read? I assume we have pretty much the same sources, but I check them more often. Ah, OECD expected beginning of September that Germany will shrink in Q3? Well, according to the figures released in October, that's not going to happen.
Interesting that you found the PMI figure of 44.7 in August relevant (which is reflecting only within the manufacturing sector), but not the Composite Output Index, which includes also services and was at 49.2 in September.
"Is Germany going to cut back its welfare state?" - well, Germany's public debt is decreasing. I would say this is the way to go, just like Mr. Schäuble stated as well.
http://www.thelocal.de/money/20121011-45493.html
But I see u did not comment it.. Not good enough for u right?
But am glad u said German debt is the biggest in Europe, and as I can see in the link above total german debt is increasing..
What are you smoking? Germany keeps borrowing more than it earns and its total debt is, of course, going up. And the demographic cliff is just starting to happen.
"Germany keeps borrowing more than it earns and its total debt is, of course, going up." - Would you care to substantiate your opinion with figures? The Americans tend to disagree with you. Their figures for Germany's public debt: 83.4% of GDP (2010 est.), 81.8% of GDP (2011 est.)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2186.html
"Rea, another point.. I remember u love and were defending Oktoberfest right?" - No, you are mistaking me with somebody else. It's not that bad, it happens. It is more important to pay attention to facts. While I tend to enjoy German festivals, Oktoberfest is too big and too commercial for my taste. I have never been there and I do not plan to.
I see... you simply don't understand the difference between "total debt" and "debt relative to GDP".
Furthermore, no matter what you look at, a single annual decline wouldn't tell you anything; there was a huge jump in public debt even relative to GDP from 2009 to 2010, and fiscal discipline in Germany has not improved.
A country can grow itself out of debt or it can cut spending, but neither is likely going to happen in Germany any time soon.
It is generally accepted that it makes sense to measure the public debt relatively to GDP, as the absolute debt says little about the financial situation. The same amount might be small for a country and a lot for another one.
"fiscal discipline in Germany has not improved" - Would you care to provide some figures? As far as I know, the budget gap for 2012 decreased to 31 billion euros (from 34.8 billion euros last year). I would find 10% a significant improvement towards a balanced budget.