Published: 15 Mar 10 10:40 CET | Print version
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Germany has doubled its arms exports over the last five years, making it the world’s third largest weapons dealer after the United States and Russia, according to a new study released on Monday.
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Mainly driven by the naval built up of China and India , Australia is now considering not just to modernize its troubled submarine fleet but to double it in size as well. If they find a way to finance that.
The scale of China and India's naval plans already in motion have nothing to do with defence anymore. Now its about force projection. China aims at seriously challening the u.s navy within the coming decades.
One of their aims is clearly to change the Taiwan and Japan situation in their favor for good.
Im not sure if Australia will manage to develop their new subs within a reasonable time though. They've set their aims very high, maybe too high and i can already see them asking Germany for participation in their development efforts. We already have pretty much what they are looking to develop first.
Pakistan wants more submarines as well. Logically when looking over the border to India reveals such cunning naval ambitions going on there which are clearly aimed at domination over the coastline and northern part of the Indian ocean.
This alarm ringing about the evil intent of China is simple a ploy used by certain other countries to justify the continuing buildup of their own armed forces.
Considering to what ends the US used their, "unchallenged military hegemony" that might not be a bad thing. The US taxpayers bore the tremendous cost of the defense industry only to encourage US corporation to give it all away to the Chinese for monetary gain, it's been such a huge waste.
But then a great number of US companies and private people have gotten rich haven't they.
The Germans are smarter than that now. The Europeans finally learned what some American haven't. Waging war isn't a glorious Hollywood movie. As for the "power vacuum", it's probably appropriate that the countries in the Asian region step up to the plate and work it out themselves.
Congratulations.
I agree that waging war is not a glorious Hollywood move. But I still believe in miliarism. Perhaps it is my Old Prussian genes.
Ref. Asia. Does anyone think Japan will sit idly by in the coming decades and let China circle aircraft carriers around it? They can quickly build up an offensive Navy again and have the technical prowess to more that match anything China can do -- period.
That is certainly the truth! And the guys on camels have almost bankrupted the US. Or should I say that the Dick Cheney and Co defense established, using the guys on camels as a pretext has almost driven the US broke buy crazy military hardware which is worthless against the guys on camels.
But hey, the defense contracts have made BILLIONS!.
Some of us (The Vandals) plundered and burned Rome down...once that was.
And we surely threw them out of Germania, but Rome , of all, IS still THE example of an empire that did not need help from someone else to completely break down and crumble.
The Roman empire destroyed itself in a several hundred years lasting process of intrigue, corruption, civil war and overall moral decay.
...I'm not sure what that has to do with anything (or maybe I'm missing your point).
What I'm saying is that countries with the requisite A2/AD hardware (like Russia, China, and Iran) can render American force projection capabilities useless if the pentagon deems military engagement in any given situation to be too risky (I'm pretty sure that any American strategic planner would agree that several air squadrons, a couple AEGIS cruisers and a CVN or two out of commission represents unacceptable risk).
Like it or not, the days of the USN and USAF operating in virtually risk-free combat environments are pretty much over...
The point is Germany is exporting death and destruction, from a country that should know better! The Article is not about Russia, America or any other country, it is about Deutschland!
@tollermann - You LTC, have HUGE balls to comment on another country, "exporting death and destruction". You are part of a military establishment that has garrisioned the global, refuses to sign treaties to control landmine or small arms.
So STFU!
As far as the demise of American military power, LOL with that . The Americans may call them Carrier Battle Groups, but the rest of the world calls them a Fleet with a nuclear capable SUPER Carrier in the middle, that Supper Carrier an Air Arm more powerful than most nation's whole Air Forces.
The US projects Full Spectrum dominance in every catagory from Space Weapons to throwing mud, Germany is lucky the English speaking democracies (US, Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand) see her as an Allie.
The Greatest disaster any politician could arrange, would be a weakining of the Democracies.
Well, didn't want to go there - was talking about a far more potent and long quietly discussed potential challenge. I'm not going to "kook out" on these pages.
Not doubting your expertise -- there are real challenges to the US military right now. A radical wanting 70 virgins just has to go low-tech and ram a dingy into a docked US warship, etc. and some of the other low-tech challenges mentioned above. In terms of future hi-tech weapons systems potentially facing the US -- well "the boys" are planning for those. That's how the funds flow -- through naming challenges, hyping them up ...defense industrial complex stuff.
The more troubling word is "military hegemony". The "hegemon" is the big bad bully, throwing its weight around...standing there, daring anyone else to move.... As you know the international stage is far more complicated than that. The last 9 years is a long aberration but the U.S. acted in a similar same way to an extent in the years after the Pearl Harbor attack and no one should be foolish enough to think the US is going to just sit there and not be proactive in this stuff. That just isn't in the American psyche. I'll point out again that the Americans are a melting pot from all over - a continental nation established through blood, sweat and tears. American military traditions and responses are influenced by the homeland its inhabitants came from, the largest group coming from the nation that sponsors this news forum.
Oh, I'm sorry I thought we were comparing penis sizes.
"the cause of war is preparation for war" - Mr. Dubois
The last century was one long underestimation on their leaders part as to the military potential of the English Speaking democracies.
But Germany isn't crazy, she won't go there. Communist China moving to close towards Australia our ours and Canadas Pacific coast, might let the chickens out of the Hen House.
As for the EU, which member country would rather see Germany or France running the world and their country.
In fact, given Iraq, Afghanistan, and the current state of the American military, in general I doubt Washington would respond to a Chinese occupation of New Zealand with little more than a strongly worded demarche. So if you're in English-speaking Oceania, I wouldn't go around poking the sleeping bear/dragon in the eye just yet... ;-)
Lets not forget that the US had to be DRAGGED (kicking and screaming) into both of the last world wars. The US wanted no part of either one of them. And if Hitler wouldn't have been such a genocidal nut-job, the US definitely would have come down on the German side in WWII (because it would have made cultural and economic/industrial sense).