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Immigrants to Germany are better educated and find it easier to get a job than earlier arrivals, a new survey showed on Monday. But male newcomers from other EU countries have the best employment chances.
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I am completing my PhD from Germany, and it is so hard to stay on. They just want you to work labor jobs or go back home.
Avoid this country for higher studies.
The worker didn't wish to be bothered with them either, and I told her whether she thought they'd be approved of it, wasn't it in another department where a decision was made? No decision could be made one way or the other if they didn't even submit them. They were extremely put out.
Roger, some don't even want to allow you to do labor jobs, but they definitely want you to spend your money here and go back home. In the last ten years, very easily I've spent at least 100,000€ living in Germany, helping pay their salaries. That's all they want. They make it clear they do not want you, as if they suspected you only of nefarious intent even though you obviously want to be legitimate because you're in that office in the first place.
In statistics it is hardest to move up the social ladder in the US, Germany is in the middle, Scandinavian countries are best (ok, this was predictable).
I can only say for myself: it is much easier in Germany than it seems from the outside!
Why do you think the migration balance is pending around 0? Ppl are moaning about unqualified immigrants, but nobody cares about students getting their diploma and leaving the country.
Why do they do that? Every second immigrant with a degree works under her/his qualification, according to the ministry of education.
CrownPrince: This is the imaginary, quasi romantic branding.
What's really in the package is a delicious mixture of sausage and BO sophistication, indigent etiquette skillfully characterized as honesty, and self serving herds of the ordinary without critical thinking nor creativity who esteem themelves as highly intellectually capable due to a prefabricated paper they have on the wall that says so. Way to go!
Disneyland has definitely NOT been created here. Ernste Leute, please abstain- no instruction manuals in Disneyland!
Now clearly, the barriers are still very much alive and well for foreign workforce. It will take some time to realize someone's gotta pay for the renteversicherung, mommy geld, etc.
@bolingo, Germans cleverly use the German language as a barrier because, well, this is Germany and German is the language people speak here. Are you honestly complaining because you aren't being given your dream job when you can't even speak the language?
I came here from the US after the better part of a decade in the army where I learned technical skills that are of no use to anyone in the civilian world. I worked full time at crap jobs in the US and at the same time earned an online bachelor's degree. Then I came to Germany and went to a university here to earn a master's degree (all classes were in English). When I graduated, it took me a few months, but I wound up taking the first job offer I could get. The work sucked and was well below my qualifications, but I knew it was a way to get into the German workforce to learn the work culture and improve my skills and become more fluent in German. I worked my ass off and used my experience as a stepping stone to something better. Today I have a well paying job in one of the country's biggest companies - and I didn't get here by making excuses about the language, the politicians, the Beamters, the culture, etc. I got here by doing whatever I had to do. Now get off your ass and earn it.
I guess German was the only language you learnt apart from your mother tounge English. As a US citizen whats the big deal if you could just speak English (your mother tounge), even illiterate can speak their mother tounge.
This is Germany and people speak German, so why then ,always the cry shortage of skilled labors and relaxation in immigrations rules, to attract foreign skills. The answer is if Germany needs foreign skills, they will also have to learn an International language. In the corporate world English is an International language.
Why give visa to people who do not speak German when they come first time?
@bolingo- People in the western world are too ignorant to know that all Indians who speak English, have mastered English as a foreign language apart from their mother tongue.
How many Germans have mastered English as their foreign language? If they would have done, then there would be no shortage of skilled labour which is always the cry in the media.
Is this just the EU women who actually applied for jobs or all EU women living here? Amongst my friends and colleagues, all of the German women I know are working but very few of the EU women. Almost all of the EU women I know are at home (mostly looking after their children) and neither wanting nor applying for work.
"In the corporate world English is an International language." - Sure, but it is only rarely that an employee would have to communicate only within a corporation. For example, there is a big deficit of qualified nurses in retirement homes.
"Why give visa to people who do not speak German when they come first time?" - Maybe because the visa is limited (in time) and gives people the chance to learn the language in a German-speaking environment?
I don't know exactly what you are trying to say. I took the time and effort to learn a language, German, that is not my native language because I chose to move to this country.
And the fact that there is a shortage of skilled labor in this country should be seen as an opportunity for people who have moved here to look for work. An opportunity, but not an invitation to show up and expect to get a well paid job without being able to communicate at a high level with native speakers. And it is true that English is an international language. However this is Germany, and while many people here do speak English, it is not their native language and they are far more comfortable speaking German, especially in their own country. You would do well to remember that you are an outsider here (just like me) and that even though you might think that learning the language proficiently shouldn't be that important there are plenty of other people with whom you are competing that don't see it that way. These are the people who will put in the extra effort to be able to communicate in German companies thereby making themselves more employable than those who say that everyone here should just speak English. I hope I am not coming across as too harsh, but I just fail to see how someone can move to a different country and expect the natives to cater to them so that they can become a successful member of their society.
wow, you are the man.... honestly I was starting to think I was the only one with the same mind. It seems that some people just know how to complain and they just don't want get their ass off. The interesting thing is that they always find an excuse, everything is to blame in Germany even the stars ... but never them.
This is another indicator of why Germany needs the rest of the EU more than the EU needs Germany.
Germany needs to export. EU provides tha platform.
Germany needs an educated workforce. EU also provides that platform.
Message to Dr. Merkyl and Mr. Hyde. Don't keep poisoning the goose that lays the golden egg with your austerity measures and loan sharking tactics. It will soon bite you back in the ass.
Babelfish translation? Sorry it makes no sense in English.
Of course, any person who is migrating to any other country other than his homeland has to face certain situations particularly language. It doesnt make any sense complaining about the same.
But about unemployment, Is it true that unemployment in germany is increasing...?? I am hearing about the same for first in this website.
I am planning for germany in 2013.