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International students at German universities should be made to learn at least some German - even if their courses are largely taught in English - the new representative of higher education leaders has said.
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Just let German die already. It is a needlessly complicated, horrid sounding language. And I'm saying that as a German.
I learned it and was very useful. But you should not force international students who come for an international program.
Do not call it "International Program in English" then! and stop advertising for it all over the world this way if you do not want it this way! .. be fair!
So, by all means require immigrants to learn German, and require all Germans to become fluent in English and use it consistently when it comes to education, research, and business.
I don't understand this hand-wringing anyway. Having separate literary languages and vernaculars has been the norm throughout human history and is the norm around the world. Any reasonably educated person should have no problems being fluent in two or three languages.
You sounding like you are not so sure of your mother language - Deutsch - wether to tell people that with German languge you can even be a better scientist. Yes one can be a better scientist with German language:that is how I see it after exposure to the German language. May be you are suffering from a complex - only known to yourself when it comes to your mother language.
You do not need to sound dictating: every fish that swims in German pool will eventually and automatically learn the language.
Herr Hipler will do the same when he goes to a foreign land: he will start off or rather continue to speak in Deutsch for the first few months but with time he will be heard talking in the local language. No big deal really unless Herr Hipler has something else troubling him at the back of his mind.
I guess the idea of scientific courses in German is only a pretext. A regular university teaching in German requires at least C1 (so right under the level of a native). If starting from scratch, I think one would need some 2-3 years to reach this level, so there is no much time left to study in German.
I lived in Germany 14 years. It wasn't until the second time I was there that any German would let me speak or try to speak German. THey were proud of their English skills, and I must say, they had reason to be proud. I lived in a few different countries and became fluent in Spanish and German, almost in Italian, and could get by in French. I am no genius (Ask Chris Rea, he has stated so much about me many times). It is only right that a person going to a foreign country, and going to school be required to learn and communicate beyond the rudimentary words. They should be conversant if not fluent. I understand Germany wants to create an economic boom by being the training center for the world. Admirable as that is, it makes sense that there be a common bond between the school, the teacher and the student.
Sorry to say but the Dutch are the best in Europe at English as a second language better than some English,Scots,Welsh and Irish in some cases.
In addtion, in my experience some Dutch are not really fond of their language. I met Dutch people who said they find it harsh and not nice. That is why they prefer to speak English or German.
But, after 3 years talking with many of the German/International professors of science out here, I start to see what he meant. All the older professors get very confused by this line the Editors of international science journals say about their submissions: "Needs to be reviewed for Native English". I have sympathy for them, I guess the older people out here learned Russian as a second language when they were in school.
I think anyone living in a foreign country should at least try to learn the language; but German science professors need to remember that, unfortunately, most of science research is published in English (although I suspect the Chinese are catching up).
if foreign students are required to learn german when it is not relevant to their field of study, perhaps german citizens should regularly undergo testing to ensure that they are using the language correctly.
Young people, and this includes most university students, would be smart to take any opportunity to learn a second or even a third language. It's not just about job opportunities, but the ability to think and express yourself in more complex terms.
I once met a professor who spoke ten (related) languages and I am still green with envy.