February 23, 2012
Published: 13 Sep 11 16:34 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/education/20110913-37563.html
Germany is falling behind in its production of skilled young workers, according to a report from the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, which shows stagnation of the number of people attending higher education.
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How fair is this? The 8 and the 9 year Gymnasium student have to compete for a shortage of Hochschule and Uni places. Why don't the 9 year students, who already have an extra year, have priority over the 8 year students and why, when there are so many applicants, is this the year to do away with the social/military requirement? Sending a child to a state school in Germany is a very unpleasant experience for both parents and children.I could write a book.
If a nations has serious problems regarding education, then surely the culture as a whole is unhealthy too.
Non-emotionalism is a very effective solution.
They are always talking about universities/universities of applied sciences, but why don't they mention the "Berufsausbildungs-" and Berufsfortbildungsystem?
@ lenny van: You are so funny! =) Have you recently had a look at the PISA studies - then you would see that Germany is the only country which has improved since the first PISA studies which took place in the year of 2000. Concerning mathematics and science German students now belong to the ones which are above average, only in the field of reading they are just average - at present.
"Granted, that in general a child probably learns a bit more in the Bavarian Gymnasium than at a public high school in the United States..."
Are you really serious? Sorry, but there are a lot of US American high schools which don't even reach the level of German "Hauptschulen". A friend of mine who did her Abitur in Germany with 3,0 - which is in deed not very good - became the best student among all students in her class, even though she was not a native speaker. Most of them wouldn't even know where to find Germany on a map...
The Waldorf schools are just as ridiculous as the "Gesamt-" or "Einheitsschulen". By making life as easy as possible for students they won't become more "intelligent" or more "educated". These schools don't get the people to the exam, but the exam to the people.
Moreover it is a fact that students who attended Waldorf schools have significant problems in the fields of mathematics and science compared to students who went to "Gymnasien" and even "Realschulen".
The system which is devided into "Gymnasien, Realschulen and Hauptschulen" or "Gymnasien and Mittelschulen" in my opinion is still the best solution.
What about an auto mechanic with years of experience, a master woodworker who produces high quality musical instruments, a certified electrician, etc.? None of those profession requires a 4 year university degree yet most would agree that all of them requires very high skills.
Societies in general seems to favor those with a limited scope of skill sets yet disregard the rest. All one has to do to determine if Germany lacks "highly skilled person" is redefining what they mean by that.
It's not about what children prefer, it's about what makes them learn the most. There will always be some children who will be capable of having good marks and being able to follow the stuff which is taught at school and others who will not be capable of following what their teacher tries to teach them - that's it.
Of course you can keep on prefering Waldorfschulen, but by doing so their disadvantages are not going to vanish. Soon we'll see which eduction system is better or worse...
One more thing: US Americans critising Germans for being arrogant can be replied with: "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". (Yes, I said US Americans because in their arrogance US Americans seem to forget that there is not only the U.S. on the American continent)