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Deutsche Bahn sues train builder over faults
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Deutsche Bahn sues train builder over faults

Published: 14 Feb 2013 13:49 GMT+01:00
Updated: 14 Feb 2013 13:49 GMT+01:00

Fed up with unreliable trains on suburban systems across Germany, Deutsche Bahn is suing Canadian train maker Bombardier for €160 million, the Süddeutsche Zeitung reported on Thursday.

The axels are not strong enough, the brakes too weak, and the trains have to make repeated trips to the workshops, leaving timetables in chaos - and now kicking off court cases.

The paper said Deutsche Bahn had filed two suits in both Munich and Berlin, claiming a total of €160 million in compensation from Bombardier.

The complaint concerns more than 200 regional trains in operation in southern Germany which have experienced repeated problems with tilting technology and axles.

The Munich case concerns trains which have had repeated braking problems, forcing the federal railway office to reduce the speed limit in the region at times. Initially Deutsche Bahn is not claiming compensation in this case, but wants to force the release of information which it can later use for such a claim which the SüddeutscheZeitung said was planned.

Deutsche Bahn confirmed the existence of the two complaints to the paper, but declined to say what they were about. Bombardier also said it would not comment.

Bombardier, alongside Siemens, is the most important supplier of trains to Deutsche Bahn and primarily supplies local and regional trains.

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14:51 February 14, 2013 by vonSchwerin
At present, the headline reads, "Deutsch Bahn sues train builder over faults."

That should be Deutsche Bahn.

Please correct.
15:29 February 14, 2013 by hanskarl
Whew, last year it was Siemens. This year it is Bombardier. Time to look at other manufacturers?
15:54 February 14, 2013 by raandy
Siemens was all about delivery not quality like Bombardier. They make skidoos and seadoos neither a great product. Yamaha and Polaris are much better.
19:13 February 14, 2013 by Berlin fuer alles
Lets go back to horse and carriage. At least that way we can keep the horses in sight and avoid eating them.
19:39 February 14, 2013 by GoBike
Bombardier makes trains for the Chinese market built in China probably with a large number of Chinese components. I wonder how much of the Canadian train is made in the Chinese part of Canada.
00:01 February 15, 2013 by wood artist
@GoBike

Assuming your information is accurate, I wonder if they figure into that really ugly crash in China a couple years ago. I have no idea who made the units involved in that mess.

wa
01:04 February 15, 2013 by Britanicus
I believe Greater Manchester (Metrolink ), is also having, or had, problems with

" Bomberdier" products, increased the projected completion costs way beyond

what was originally envisaged, now causing a city wide witch hunt into the astronomical rise in costs.
02:47 February 15, 2013 by bellsucks
Don't think there are too many Bomberdier trains running in Canada. Maybe Subway Cars mostly
04:28 February 15, 2013 by RainerL
Strange!! We imported German made Trams from Germany to Adelaide Australia. So why is germany having someone else build Trains for them??? Germany has the know how and technology to build better Trains. Guess that is what one gets when outsourcing to someone else. Serves them right > Don't complain!
08:33 February 15, 2013 by MrMooochy
Wow, a whole lot of uninformed people here are making some very strange comments and wildly wrong statements. Part of the problem here is the weak journalistic skills which went into writing this news article.

First of all Bombardier Transportation (the train maker) is a German company headquartered in Berlin. It belongs to the parent company Bombardier Corp. in Canada.

The trains in question were also assembled in Germany at a Bombardier plant in Hermsdorf, near Berlin. Bombardier Transportation has a number of large assembly plants in Germany, which assemble passenger trains, locomotives and light rail vehicles. The company also has assembly plants in various other countries including France, England, China, Sweden, Canada, USA and several others.

Bombardier exited the snowmobile and jet ski business many years ago, perhaps a couple of decades ago. Today Bombardier has essentially just two divisions / two product lines. One is design and production of regional passenger aircraft and biz jets, which is headquartered in Montreal, Canada. The other is trains, locomotives, mass transit rail cars, light rail transit cars, etc. headquartered in Berlin, Germany with various manufacturing and assembly plants in Germany and elsewhere around the world.
16:03 February 15, 2013 by catjones
MrMooochy...took the words right out of my mouth. Visited the Berlin facility on open-house day (last year?) and saw where they Made the cars.....My recollection; nobody was speaking Canadian.
16:42 February 15, 2013 by MrMooochy
Well, I missed-typed the name of the town . . . . I meant Hennigsdorf, in the suburbs of Berlin, northwest from the city. Huge facility, which has been there a long time, pre-dates WW 2. It became part of Bombardier Transportation slightly over a decade ago via several acquistions made by Bombardier Transportation in the early 2000s, particularly ADTranz, which was a Daimler Benz company prior to Bombardier buying it.
21:35 February 16, 2013 by GoBike
@wood artist

Shenzhen Metro certinaly uses rolling stock manufactured by Bombardier joint venture with CSR in China. So if you had components made in China same design would you use them on other trains overseas. Volkswagon has just opened a huge gearbox factory as well. Current demand means it may be a few years before exports start.

The High speed trains are very similar to a simens design of a train sold before in China. Now made by CSR I dont think Simens have anything to do with it.

The fault was signal hardware not the trains due to lightning they had saved a bit of money on lightning protection and fall back and spent it on lunch instead.
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