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Refugees in Bavaria have to sleep in tents

Published: 01 Oct 2012 17:28 GMT+02:00

“We aim to replace the tents with mobile accommodation units before the winter,” Robert Dirrigl, head of the camp in question told The Local.

He said there had been a sharp increase in the number of refugees arriving from Serbia and Macedonia and this had left the Central Reception Centre in Zirndorf near Nuremberg in Bavaria, hopelessly overcrowded.

Refugees who have been given a pass are able to come to the centre to for meals and to sleep, said Dirrigl – but there is no longer enough room and all attempts to find more capacity elsewhere have failed.

They will now be offered space in the tents. Six have been set up each with enough room for 14 people as well as wooden floors, heating and lighting.

“The last time we used tents was in 1992. It is a shame but there is nothing else we can do, it is an emergency solution to an emergency situation,” said Dirrigl.

A member of the regional Red Cross, which was contracted to put up the tents, said there was no information about how long it would be before they could be taken down again.

”It should be a temporary measure,” he said. “It would be good to take them down as soon as possible.”

Both he and Dirrigl seemed unhappy using the word ‘container’ to describe what is planned to replace the tents.

“The mobile housing units are set to be set up as soon as possible,” said Dirrigl, who only after some prompting admitted he was talking about containers.

He said all efforts would be made to make sure that children did not have to sleep in the tents.

“It has been extremely difficult to find other places for them to stay. We are doing our best, but the situation with the property market makes it difficult. We are always trying to figure out other options.”

Ruth Kronau-Neef, spokeswoman for the Mittelfranken regional government told The Local that the number of refugees had risen sharply over the last four weeks, with around 15 percent of those arriving in Germany taken on by Bavaria. There are two main reception facilities for them – in Zirndorf and in Munich.

Between September 17 and 27, she said 405 new people were taken on at Zirndorf – more than twice as many as in the last few months, which was high anyway.

Zirndorf has capacity for 500 people, but as of September there were 675 people there, she said.

The plan is to quickly increase capacity in the car park area in front of the garage – initially for a year – to house around 150 people.

Temperatures in the area are expected to drop to around five degrees Celsius at night over the next two weeks.

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Your comments about this article

17:39 October 1, 2012 by catjones
We've been told that East germany is a ghost town region, yet bavaria has no room in the inn.
19:21 October 1, 2012 by alf2
What were they expecting? A flat and a BMW?
20:25 October 1, 2012 by sonriete
Germany has no borders with either Serbia or Macedonia and yet there is an overflow of "refugees" from these two countries, which have not seen war in over a decade, what's that all about?
20:36 October 1, 2012 by puisoh
Why can't these refugess be relocated to some less properous and less populated regions in the East? Could it be because there is no Oktoberfest there? And as Sonriete said it, war is over.
22:09 October 1, 2012 by wasserball
How stupid can you get? If you provide for them, they will come, even more will come now that it's in the news. :)
22:24 October 1, 2012 by txjohn50
Right up the road in Furth is my old empty barracks at Montieth Kaserne. I visited Germany last year and my room is free. Showers, toilets and so on. Better than tents.
23:37 October 1, 2012 by pepsionice
There are at least twenty US installations that shut down since 1999 and would be ten times better than tents. My suspicion is that the Germans would like to push the refugees back into returning to their old country. I don't buy of this "must-accept" talk any more. Give them $300, some fresh clothing, and tell them to just go back home.
06:08 October 2, 2012 by lewis69
I read this on the Swiss edition of The local 5 minutes ago.

"Two Kurdish brothers from Iraq, living as refugees in Switzerland, have been charged with taking part in a "terrorist" organization linked to Al-Qaeda, the Swiss attorney general's office said on Monday".

Why spend our tax dollars on these fools and risk our safety in the process?

If anyone thinks thousands Europeans could walk into any country in the Middle East and seek asylum without persecution comment below and explain in full.
15:04 October 2, 2012 by Herr Ed
Excuse me if I don't weep over the plight of these "refugees." Military members were routinely sleeping in tents in Iraq and Afghanistan in conditions much worse than that in Bavaria, and you don't have somebody shooting at you here. I understand wanting to better your lot in life by coming to a more prosperous country, but that doesn't mean that country needs to bend over backwards to amke sure you're more comfortable than the soldiers defending it.
23:13 October 2, 2012 by Karl_Berlin
I don't normally do this, but here goes, sigh:

alf2 - People deserve respect. That is all. They may hope for more, and why not. Just because of a minor issue involving where they were born, their lives are to a certain extent predestined. Is it a crime to do whatever you can to try for something better? I know I would lie, cheat and do whatever it took if I were in their shoes. And I know the refugees in question are not exactly from the "worst" part of the world. However, striving for better is a human instinct. Even if only their children will actually benefit, if at all.

puisoh - Because they may be killed, if not by the right-wing element, then by... well, check out this: http://initiativeouryjalloh.wordpress.com/. Do a bit of research on the Internet as to how refugees in Heimen in East Germany are treated. I'm fairly sure they didn't land in Bavaria for the cheap booze.

wasserball - I am pretty sure they don't read this high-quality online news source. People have basic human rights. Your "if you provide for them" argument is in my opinion shameful.

lewis69 - So two refugees are evil, therefore they all are? Thanks for that. Your know that hole...?
05:31 October 4, 2012 by lewis69
@karl_berlin I do not understand your question and no not all of them are evil but why risk it. Do you remember the subway bombings in spain, 9/11 the dozens of middle eastern people arrested every year across Europe who where planing attacks? plus can you honestly say you belive they would take us in to their countrys as asylum seekers I think not.
13:09 October 4, 2012 by LecteurX
@ lewis69 - Why would you want to a seek asylum in Iraq or in Afghanistan?

And then, when you said you don't "thint" they would take us in their countries, well maybe you didn't think hard enough, which does not really come as a surprise, but I won't elaborate on that...

See, rather than throwing wild assumptions, why don't you just perform a simple search on the Internet? You'll find straightforward answers, like this report from the UNHCR, stating which countries RECEIVE most refugees worldwide:

Pakistan 1.9 million refugees

Iran 1.1 million

Syria 1 million (yes, Syria)

Germany 0.6 million

Jordan 0.45 million

Kenya 0.4 million

Chad 0.35 million

China 0.3 million

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jun/20/refugee-statistics-unhcr-data

Actually, Pakistan alone receives far more refugees than the whole of Europe ("only" 1.6 million), and countries like Bangladesh or Venezuela receive accommodate more refugees than France.

But, you're right, why should we even bother with facts when some good old prejudice does the job and spares our brain some work?

"Why risk it?". It's called charity. Yeah, some old-fashioned concept. Jesus was quite big on that thing. Funny that next Sunday I'm sure most people on this thread go to mass and call themselves Christians. What a joke.

@ Karl_Berlin - Thanks for your comment.
15:34 October 4, 2012 by zameenzad
Pakistan took refugees from Afghanistan, Burma, Iraq, Iran, and even from Russian states. 2,700,000 Afghans refugees are being provided residence, cloths, food, education and health since last 35 years.

Every human has the right to strive for improving his life. We as humans have always been migrants from one place to another.

there was no concept of borders and passport before world war 1. In 1920, the League of Nations held a conference to establish and visas.

http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49e487016.html
18:36 October 5, 2012 by sootysmum
There is a difference between asylum seekers, those that want to work for a better life elsewhere, those who think that it¦#39;s better living on benefits rather than work at home and those who are coming in to take over Europe. In the UK there are those that come in from various Muslim controlled countries, receive thousands in benefits, a roof over their heads, smash their home up and the kids are criminals dealing in drugs. No country wants them to come in but they do. Also note that the UK has finally deported 4 Muslims known to be terrorists (including Abu Hamza who lost both of his hands making bombs) who planned attacks in the US.

Genuine asylum seekers tend to integrate and become part of the community. They tend not to commit burglaries, rape, GBH and murder. Also in the UK there have been prosecutions of 2 groups of Muslims who sexually groomed and systematically raped girls, mostly white and some Hindu. The authorities were scared to do anything and continually ignored and thereby abused the victims themselves.

In Sweden and Norway the police state that the vast majority of rapes are committed by Muslims. Thanks to Muslims a Swedish MP now has to have protection as they tried to burn her and her family in bed at night.

The problem is that there are genuine asylum seekers and people or want to work who are overwhelmed by the other kinds and they are the ones that Europe doesn¦#39;t want.
19:31 October 6, 2012 by henry1544
Comment: Only 2% of refugees actually qualify for asylum. The rest are seeking a better life than they had, meaning EASIER life. But they do NOT qualify for help. I don't blame them personally, but running away has never solved anything. But for the bleeding heart liberals in here who moan on and on about "humanity" and "right wing extremism", why don't YOU open YOUR home for these people first? Before you want ME to open MY door.

In Sweden the political party "Sweden Democrats" this year made a motion in the parliament that all the politicans who advocate for open border policies and want to expand the immigration to Sweden, should house these immigrants personally, and thereby relive the counties and cities who have big problems housing the overwhelming amount of asylumseekers coming to Sweden. Which sound logical. Somehow this notion did not pass in parliament and the social democrats/left/enviromentalist somehow "didn't have room" in their houses when it came to puttingt their money where their mouths are.

That's called double standards. And the bleeding heart liberals seem to have this in abundance.
20:53 October 6, 2012 by 0234maxwell
Ive have read all the comments so far the sure thing that is happening is that national identity is being eroded and is one of the essential parts required to be Germany. Germany is a great country but is not being run by great people with a strong forthright policies. Weakness and Fear.
21:58 October 6, 2012 by michael valerio
Better yet, send them back to their respective countries.
06:01 October 15, 2012 by rwk
How many refugees from the US will German accept? I am going to need to flee for my life if Romney is elected.
10:44 November 19, 2012 by ichendu
OK - so this is gonna be a two parter bc i PASSIONATELY BELIEVE immigration isnt bad! but bear with me and READ what I'm saying here ok??

i've read all these comments too, and i'm alitlte late to this board - BUT -

I've noticed ONE thing in ALL "immigrant populations" in European Countries

(esp. UK, Switz, Netherland, Norway, Denmark, France)

I don't see ANY of the "immigrant populations" but ONE out in the streets protesting freedom of speech, and out in the streets yelling freedom go to hell and trying to implement their own religious laws and circumvent other things and other "freedoms and social customs" that western societies hold dear.

IN ALL the 'immigrant populations" - ONLY ONE does these things.... think about it.... pretty sad.... so please dont brand ALL the immigrants bc of them showing such non-integration and contrary attitudes...

Also, i read recently an article talking about how its NOT THE immigrant "PEOPLE", its just a fundamental disconnect that some "immigrant religions and religious customs" have with the basic tenants of free christian nations. They just have nothing in common, so the "foundations" just can't seem to "take" and blend well together.

I mean some individuals seem to make it, but you have to admit that even in their OWN countries for the most part, they have to be ruled by political TYRANTS to even just CONTROL them all with an IRON FIST just to stop all the sharia law tyrants from killing others that do NOT believe they way they do, and then they just make trouble, and start trying to take over EVERYTHING, and if the political tyrant doesnt put THEM DOWN and if "they" DO get the upper hand, then instead of just ONE TYRANT - then the people are ruled by MULTIPLE TYRANTS!

(ie the muslim brotherhood will soon do this to ANY population it rules just like hamas has done in gaza and hezbollah has done in its villiages in southern lebannon, and in Iran - and PAKISTAN cant do ANYTHING ANYMORE to help even ITSELF since Musharreif has given up trying to STOP THEM ALL FROM KILLING THEMSELVES and just gave UP and left office (he even tired to make the "seculars" happy by giving up his military rank and just rule as a normal president - not a MILITARY PRESIDENT! (and we see where THAT has gotten them, what with the swat valley pushtoons & the Taliban OFF THE HOOK NUTS KILLING PPL and even TRYING TO ASSASINATE LITTLE GIRLS who only want to go to SCHOOL!!)
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