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Pope's plans for September trip to Germany finalized
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Pope's plans for September trip to Germany finalized

Published: 12 Apr 2011 12:57 GMT+02:00
Updated: 12 Apr 2011 12:57 GMT+02:00

Notable stops include a speech at the Bundestag, meetings with German President Christian Wulff and Chancellor Angela Merkel, along with public services in Berlin, Erfurt and Freiburg.

The head of the Catholic Church will arrive in Berlin the morning of September 22 and be received at the Bellevue Palace, the official residence of the German president, by Wulff.

In the afternoon, the pope will give a speech at the Bundestag, where meetings with Chancellor Merkel, Bundestag president Norbert Lammert, and members of the Federal Constitutional Court are planned.

The pope will oversee a Eucharist in front of the Charlottenburg Palace in the evening, and then spend the night in Berlin.

He will fly on September 23 to Erfurt, where he will be received by Christine Lieberknecht, Thuringia's state premier.

After speaking with representatives of the Evangelical Church at the famous Augustinian Monastery, where Martin Luther became a monk in 1505, he will officiate a vesper service at Etzelbach in Eichsfeld, a region in northwest Thuringia, before spending the night in Erfurt.

On September 24, after a Eucharist observation at Erfurt’s Domplatz, Benedict XVI will fly to Baden-Württemberg, where he will be greeted by state premier Stefan Mappus.

The pope will visit the Freiburg Minster to meet with members of the Orthodox Church, before finishing the day with a prayer with Freiburg youth on the city’s fairgrounds.

On the last day of his visit, the pope will officiate a service at the Freiburg airport and then meet with members of the German Bishops’ Conference in the afternoon.

He will give a speech before Catholics at the Freiburg concert hall before finally returning to Rome via Freiburg’s Lahr airport in the evening.

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18:30 April 12, 2011 by munchingmuschiinmünchen
Man that is some scary picture of the pope!
20:30 April 12, 2011 by KamiZ
LOL I was just about to write the exact same thing! :D
20:54 April 12, 2011 by Nemo2010
The face of evil!
20:57 April 12, 2011 by iseedaftpeople
it should also be noted that the planning of protests against his visit is also already in full swing. Google it, about a dozen organizations have joined forces in Berlin to show Ratzinger that not all of Germany welcomes him. I know I will be there, and I am already toying around with some ideas for a witty protest banner (suggestions welcome!).

oh yeah and the picture in this article completely does Ratzinger's general creepiness justice. Kudos to the editors for always making him look like the arrogant senile jackoff that he is.
21:07 April 12, 2011 by whpmgr
WOW, this is the intermediate between us and God here. Just because he wears a funny hat, looks like evil incarnate and probably is hiding some American Pediphiles in his house doesn't mean he is a bad guy. He is probably just misunderstood...from no one to Pope, explain how that one happened?
21:24 April 12, 2011 by iseedaftpeople
lol whpmgr... you don't mean to insinuate that the fact that Ratzinger was made pope is proof that there is a god, after all, a git like him couldn't just have come from nothing? ;-)

Being an atheist, my standard retort applies here: what kind of a stupid god would make a {insert strong expletive} like Ratzinger the Pope?? ;-)
21:26 April 12, 2011 by lumberjack
"before finishing the day with a prayer with Freiburg youth"

Parents, BEWARE!
22:09 April 12, 2011 by nayld
You anti-Catholics are so sad.

If the vicious and libellous protests against the Pope before his visit to the UK is anything to go by, then all you have to look forward to is the blowing away of your vitriol and lots of egg on your faces.

The secular and atheist and anti-Catholic extremists tried their best to snarl at and even arrest the Pope during his visit to the UK and the British press was 100% behind them - until he arrived that is, and ordinary people could judge the man for themselves. The opinion of the vast majority? Well, they realised that the smear campaign against the Pope, which was (on the whole) led by pro-homosexualists, was built on a tissue of deliberate lies and misinformation. What happened then? Most sensible people turned their backs on the paddlers of hate, and conversions to the Catholic Church increased dramatically!
22:54 April 12, 2011 by trash head
Where is the "your pocket is the next, moron !" balloon near his head ?!
23:50 April 12, 2011 by Altdude
Any word on when Benny Hinn is coming?
00:16 April 13, 2011 by iseedaftpeople
@nayld:

...and in what parallel universe did all that happen?

Pope Benedict is an insult to all of humanity.

Have you seen Richard Dawkins' speech at the protests in the UK? I suggest you do, it's on youtube. (we aren't supposed to post youtube links on here, I think). It was a brilliantly eloquent, yet amazingly spot-on speech that sums up all that is wrong with Ratzinger and the Catholic Church as a whole.
08:47 April 13, 2011 by Gilly58
Here's Johnny!
12:35 April 13, 2011 by GordonHide
I don't know what you anti-catholics are complaining about. This pope must be the greatest thing since sliced bread from your point of view.
13:30 April 13, 2011 by laurencelewis
@nayld:

You are insulting and mistaken; the UK is largely against the kind of religion peddled by Ratzinger and the Catholic Church. I don't know where you're hearing such misinformation, but the UK is a largely secular country, with Catholics in the minority of Christians. Religion plays a negligible role in UK life and in practice most of those who claim a religious affiliation do not practice or only do so out of habit.

The pope does deserve to be arrested, the people that tried sent a strong message. For a head of state (even the head of a relic state like Vatican city) to organise the cover-up of so much child-abuse, and to openly propagate lies about the efficacy of contraception in impressionable regions like Africa and Indonesia, is truly a crime against humanity.

What is really sad is that you align what "you" consider to be a misguided group of people with "pro-homosexuality", as if that is one of the worst things a person could be. You should be ashamed! Just because Catholics are largely unable to deal with the stifling taboos surrounding their own sexuality doesn't mean they can condemn those who are more progressive and open.

The kind of religious dogma you engender is truly the source of hate to which you allude. Try taking a look at the situation in the world today, the diversity of people, religion, and ideology and you will see that you're mode of thinking is utterly incompatible with a solution to the problems we face, indeed it makes them worse.

I apologise to those Catholics who are more moderate in their outlook but I can¦#39;t stand such shallow rhetoric.
14:53 April 13, 2011 by danceswithgoats
laurencelewis - I assume you are excluding the ever larger Muslim population of the UK when you refer to the UK as "largely secular". Their "kind of religion" makes Catholicism look positively tame. Nature abhors a vacuum and if you stand for nothing you will believe in anything. The ever increasing conversion of indigenous UK citizens to Islam proves that principle. Now that more UK citizenry attend a mosque on Friday than church on Sunday; I have to wonder if a bit more Catholicism might be a good thing.
15:29 April 13, 2011 by iseedaftpeople
@laurencelewis

wery well written, your comment there.

Personally, I am pretty sure Ratzinger is a closet homosexual himself. Think about it - he never tires of condemning gays for their "unnatural behavior" (a strong sign of homosexuality in denial to begin with, among conservative bible-thumpers of all kinds), and yet he let it slip out recently that maybe condoms aren't universally devil's work, and could be alright for gay male prostitute. Now doesn't that exception strike you as oddly specific?

And besides, Ratzinger is known for delighting himself in watching liturgic dances performed by strapping young men for hours on end. Hey, other people go to strip clubs, he watches young guys in funny costumes.

Ratzinger has all the markings of being a closet case. I have nothing against homosexuals, to each their own. But when a gay pope makes life miserable for all other homosexuals, something is terribly wrong.
15:48 April 13, 2011 by danceswithgoats
@iseedaftpeople - surely you jest. Please explain how the Pope "makes life miserable for all other homosexuals"? "liturgic dances"? What is that? The only liturgic dances I know are the whirling dervishes. Your notions don't even make partial sense.
16:01 April 13, 2011 by whpmgr
laurencelewis: Your posting was very literate and well thought out. Very well done, and thank you.

As for the rise in Muslim vice any other religion in the UK, what ever the people want, as long as it is people who are there legally, fine.

I have no idea if the pope is a closet Homosexual, I don't care frankly. I just want them acknowledge the damage they have done in the name of God (publically) and in the name of self preservation(Privately. The crusades were self serving land grabs that didn't quite work. The child abuse in the US and, now the world is hearing about them elsewhere, is doing nothing good to promote God, but everything bad about telling us God is bad and so are his followers. I am no prefect Christian. I am a sinner and do not always feel proud about my thoughts. But I am not in front of an entire flock telling them one thing and doing another more damaging thing. They need to reorganize. they need to acknowledge their part in this terrible hateful practice that they have supported (if only by doing nothing to make the abuse disappear and stop). It cannot be right they get away with it.

If the head of a huge bank in Germany is responsible for the dissolution and mis management of the bank, how can the Pope not be held accountable for the actions of many of his (VP/CEO's) Bishops, cardinals and the lower rank and file?

I will not judge, but someone needs to.
17:41 April 13, 2011 by laurencelewis
@danceswithgoats

1 in 10 people in the UK are not British born. That is hardly a large number considering contemporary culture. Why is it bad thing? I bet you can't provide a concrete answer that can't be traced to some ill-founded prejudice.

Britain harbours many immigrants who moved there due to the old colonial ties forged during one of the most aggressive periods of imperialism the world has seen (e.g. India, Africa). The UK brought its current situation on itself, which to my mind is a pretty good one actually, and I think owes it to the millions of people it dominated in the past (at its height 1 in 4 people on the planet were ruled by the British empire) to be tolerant and inclusive. The world is becoming increasingly international, which is a GOOD thing, and the UK, with its extensive experience, has the opportunity to set an example.

Personally I would rather have people out of Churches and engaging with the world in a direct and compassionate way. Why sit in lines learning morality through metaphor and allegory, when we literally have the world at our fingertips and can see the consequences of our actions as we perpetrate them.
07:05 April 15, 2011 by proclusian
I appreciate the comments of @laurencelewis and that the commenter is well-educated enough to realize that there is a diversity of opinions even among Catholics, and that some of us are moderate, centre-left even.

I do think it's a bit hyperbolic, some of the other vitriol here -- why does Ratzinger inspire such hatred in so many of you? I mean, if you don't believe in the creed, or if the Catholic Church isn't a part of your cultural world (as it is for some of us), just let it go.

If you're an atheist humanist, or an agnostic, why do you spout all this vitriol and hate?

Is that what an ethically good person does?

Or do you all feel free to say whatever because laws regarding defamation and libel don't apply to internet chat boards...?

Or what is it? You had religion forced on you at a young age, and you're not over it?

Let it go already. Find some peace for yourselves instead of hating all the time.

Of course, some will say, laws were broken, there was a cover-up, people deserve to be prosecuted and even jailed. So we can't let it go.

To that, I say: sure. If there were laws broken, get the lawyers, file the charges, and let the trials begin. It's about to happen in Philadelphia (e.g.).

As for the pope himself, I find it somewhat preposterous to claim that, "[t]he pope does deserve to be arrested," as if this is an indisputable truth, in that he supposedly tried "to organise the cover-up of so much child-abuse..."

You speak about it as if it was a plot, in morally simplistic black and white (the very same black and white that you condemn amongst some of the more conservative religious people who post here). I think it's a lot more complicated than that.

What are you going to tell me next -- that the Freemasons run America?

Get a grip.

Es ist halb so wild.
09:45 April 15, 2011 by frankiep
@proclusian

excellent post. Couldn't have said it better myself.

The rabid anti-Catholicism displayed on these forums by so many people is beyond tiring and reveals more about them then anything else could. The unbridled hatred is simply amazing. On a related note, I am quite sure that so many of these Catholic haters would just flip out if anyone dared to criticize Islam based on misinformation there were large organized protests and attempts to arrest any major Islamic leader.

Frankly, these haters are pathetic and deserve nothing but ridicule for their willful ignorance. Their character traits are no better than the traits which they attempt to assign to all of Catholicism.
10:27 April 15, 2011 by realiter
'...where he will be greeted by state premier Stefan Mappus.'

Stefan who?
12:01 April 15, 2011 by Universalismus
Aber warte mal Papst, es gibt im Moment kein Toilettenpapier in Deutschland. Es ist alles gestohlen worden. Someone from the SPD has got the K@ckens

Wo sollst du denn K@cken? Ach! ...Pentling! Bei der Donau! In Ratisbona! Fahrst du dorthin?

DEMO!!§&%
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